Christmas Spirit – What Spirit Is It?

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Shining the Light of Truth onto Christmas Customs

I am this year having lots of questions regarding how or even IF I can continue to “Celebrate Christmas”!  I am reading, thinking and praying about this matter as I try to discern what the Lord would have me to do.  This is one of those BIG life questions, as it seems to be like a “Holy Cow” that causes other people to have strong reactions when I mention it!   This is a journey of discovery for me over a period of the last few years as I have read information regarding the various elements that are the eclectic mix that make up our modern Westernized Christmas.  When a huge part of the world “celebrates Christmas” then I am once again feeling like a little fish swimming against the tide – a huge worldwide tide of commercial pressures, family pressures and possible spiritual pressures to boot.  But I take courage in the little comment I have just spotted which is, “any dead fish can float down the river but it takes a live fish to swim against the flow.”

Maybe you might think that as the mother of three sons, who are now grown up, I am just TIRED of “Doing Christmas”, and to a certain extent you would be correct in that assumption.  It has been an exhausting annual THING to prepare for and to pull off with womanly aplomb to the level that I have pretty consistently achieved.  If you were able to ask any of my sons, “Did you enjoy your childhood Christmas’?” they would answer with a resounding “YES, very much so!”  Consequently some of these sons are not too happy presently to hear of my growing reluctance to partake of the “festivities” this year!

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No Tree for Me, Thanks!

Now last year it was just that I didn’t put up a Christmas tree (that was as far as I was able to deal with then), but as the other elements of decorations, presents and a delicious feast were available my sons didn’t balk too much at the mere absence of a Christmas tree.  But when I have told them that this year I do not want to put up any decorations nor do I even want to cook up a feast (they don’t even know yet that I cannot face the buying and exchanging of gifts) there is a little more concern about this matter, as this is now going to affect them!  They have always come to me for their Christmas dinner you see and been treated like princes at a banquet.

So now I have to justify myself.  Now I have to try to explain what the influences upon this rather tentative decision of mine are based upon.  They are now wanting to know: Who has mother been listening too?  What has she been reading now? Perhaps she has been led astray and she needs “sorting out”?  Maybe she can be convinced to keep some normality whilst still having a bit of a year off perhaps?

So I have decided to try to piece together the story of the various facets that are leading me towards my desire to abandon the whole kit kaboodle that is Christmas, for the first time ever in my life!

I really feel that I just DO NOT WANT TO DO CHRISTMAS this year (& maybe never will again)!

Background to My Christmases Past

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So prior to doing so I want to just give you a little more background on how I have “done Christmas in the past” just so you can see what a massive upheaval this thought process is to me and my family.  I have always been the person in our household that “made Christmas happen”. (Historically my husband did a little when I directed him, but only a small part if I am honest – then he left me and my sons back in 2009 so it has all been up to me since then).

I shopped and cooked, cleaned and decorated the house to high standard.  I have done Christmas hobbies and crafts that involved hand-made cards and table decorations and gifts and made a variety of festive foods and even hand-sewn padded tree decorations too!  My Christmas tree was always colour-coordinated to almost “showroom standard” as I have an artistic eye and when I do anything I like to work at it with all my heart.  Much of this I have enjoyed, don’t get me wrong, but the sheer time-frame pressures and performance pressures (many of which I have no doubt exerted upon myself) have also been a cause of stress as well.

Oftentimes in more recent years the effort to dismantle and put away all the decorations was too great a job for me and I have occasionally left the great heap of them in the dining room (or once even in the bath) for many weeks or months into the New Year!  Once I allowed a Christian visitor to see my pile of dismantled Christmas decorations and she grabbed hold of me in a sense of shocked disbelief and said, “What is this Helen?  Is it Harrods?!”  In other words there appeared to be enough to open a shop!  I think that is the picture painted sufficiently of My Christmases Past so I can now move on to the deeper issues of what is it all about and is it worth continuing doing and the most important point of all is what does God think of it all?

Shining the Light of Truth onto Christmasquetion-mark-in-light-bulb Customs

  • Christians try to focus on the story of Jesus’ birth but was He born on 25 December?
  • Why do we decorate our homes with a tree, holly, mistletoe and evergreens?
  • Why do we have a feast – what are we actually celebrating?
  • Why do we exchange gifts?  Is it really just all about commerce and materialism?
  • Father Christmas aka Santa Claus – who IS he? (See my article expanding this issue here )

Ultimately, even if the historical roots of something are from corrupt or idolatrous sources, does that mean we have to give it all up or can we keep certain elements of Christmas anyway?  After all it is our culture and we have known no other way; and it is a comfort to us and those around us.  I think ultimately we are all in slightly differing circumstances but I know that the Lord will lead me through this morass of thoughts as He is equally able to lead you in your particular situation, but only IF we seek Him diligently and honestly about this matter.  If we love The Truth then as Jesus IS The Truth we will be led into His Truth as He truly wants us to know and understand this issue.

Was Jesus Really Born on 25 December?

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The birth of Jesus Christ is pretty much the most basic element of the Christmas story for the Christian believer.  From Christmas carols to the nativity scene, the idea that Christmas is Jesus’ birthday is everywhere.

I went to do an internet search with the question, “When was Jesus really born?” and found out that it was NOT even likely to have been this date!  Wow!  And that’s just to get the ball rolling!  It seems that we only have the information in the gospels of Matthew and Luke to help us but anyone with a little background information appear to agree that His birth was more likely to be in September time.

I liked how a site called “ChristianAnswers.net” set it all out (see their link at bottom of article for further reading).

This is what they have to say.

 “The typical story we hear repeated is:

“It’s about 2000 years ago, the evening of December 25. Mary rides into Bethlehem on a donkey, urgently needing to deliver her baby. Although it’s an emergency, all the innkeepers turn them away. So they deliver baby Jesus in a stable.  Then angels sing to the shepherds.   Afterwards, they all join three kings with camels in worshiping the quiet, new-born baby.”

The problem is this story may be almost entirely wrong. The events surrounding the birth have been retold so many times and in so many ways—in plays, poetry, books and movies—that most people have a distorted view of the true events. The only accurate record is found in the Holy Bible, God’s Word.”

They then outline how each aspect of the commonly believed story is mostly fictitious, so it is worth looking at that site, but I have copied for you a little here on this particular point of the date of Christ’s human birth.

“Was Jesus born on December 25 or in December at all?  It seems unlikely. The Bible does not specify a date or month. One problem with December is that it would be unusual for shepherds to be “abiding in the field” at this cold time of year when fields were unproductive. The normal practice was to keep the flocks in the fields from Spring to Autumn. Also, winter would likely be an especially difficult time for pregnant Mary to travel the long distance from Nazareth to Bethlehem (70 miles).  A more probable time would be late September, the time of the annual Feast of Tabernacles, when such travel was commonly accepted.

So Why do many Christians celebrate Christmas on the 25th of December, if that is not when he was born?

 The date was chosen by the Roman Catholic Church.  Because Rome dominated most of the “Christian” world for centuries, the date became tradition throughout most of Christendom.  The original significance of December 25 is that it was a well-known festival day celebrating the annual return of the sun.  December 21 is the winter solstice (shortest day of the year and thus a key date on the calendar), and December 25 is the first day that ancients could clearly note that the days were definitely getting longer and the sunlight was returning.”

Also I was thinking that it was the Roman Census time and the Romans were well known as highly efficient administrators. It would have made no sense at all to have conducted a census in the dead of winter, when temperatures often dropped below freezing and traveling was difficult due to poor road conditions. Taking a census under such conditions would surely have been self-defeating!

So They Christianized & Repackaged a Pagan Holiday!

Many sources explain that by 336AD the early Catholic Church brought in this “Christ Mass” to continue the Roman holiday of Saturnalia, as well as an overlap with the winter solstice. Saturnalia, was the Roman feast for Saturn.  The holiday was celebrated with a sacrifice at the Temple of Saturn, in the Roman Forum, and a public banquet, followed by private gift-giving, continual partying, and a carnival atmosphere that overturned Roman social norms.  Rome itself was famous for its flirtations with strange gods and cults, and in the third century the unchristian emperor Aurelian established the festival of the Day of the Invincible Sun, on December 25!

So we Christians have been sold a lie

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& Pointed in a Wrong Direction?

We may try to quote slogans such as, “Jesus is the reason for the season“, but it always felt like an uphill battle and now, finally, I have found out why!  It is in fact a battle!  It is a battle for TRUTH over lies, LIGHT over darkness, the true Lord God & Lord Jesus Christ over all the false portrayals of Him.  I am discovering that the truth of the Bible as opposed to these fairy-tale fabrications cannot be easily reconciled once realised.

As a younger Christian when my children were quite small, in an attempt to get the focus on the Lord Jesus I have even resorted to writing “Happy Birthday Jesus” on the Christmas cake that I made.  But now finally I have had the Christmas veil of deception pulled back from my eyes I can see that I was fighting a battle against something that I previously did not understand.  I now agree with another blogger who writes about those who say Happy Birthday Jesus:

“I don’t agree with that at all, it really bothers me. Jesus doesn’t have a birthday. Yes there was a particular day in history that God came to earth and became both man and God, but Jesus Christ being God is an eternal being and He said so Himself.
In John’s gospel it simply states that:

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God.”  (John 1:1-2)

“The Word became flesh and dwelt among us…” (John 1:14)

“Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”  (John 8:58)

So Jesus doesn’t have a birthday as such, as He always existed eternally with the Father.  Also I think that it is exceedingly telling that God did not give us a date nor did he stipulate in His Word that we celebrate his coming to our world in the fashion that we now have at Christmas.  Nor did the early Christians mention celebrating His birth.  Jesus Christ Himself told us at His last Passover meal to remember Him by the bread and wine of the symbols of the Passover meal.  He changed the significance from the lambs killed at the first Passover to Himself, who was just about to give His life as the once for all sacrifice for our sins, as a lamb without blemish.

John the Baptist, speaking under divine inspiration, said of Jesus,

“Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!” (John 1:29).

The sacrificial death of the Lord Jesus is to be commemorated but His birth as a baby is not a really a helpful focus.  It has proven to be a powerless story with all the essential elements removed – elements of who Jesus really IS and what He actually DID and why He did it and the fact that He is coming again (soon) as Judge of all!

I have even found out that historically many Protestant denominations rejected Christmas, and did not celebrate it.  In the 17th century Christmas was actually outlawed in England and some parts of the American colonies because of its unbiblical and pagan origins. They either ignored the holiday or actively discouraged it until the late 19th century.  What a long way we have come!

I think that for many Christians putting Christ back into Christmas may sound like a nice idea, but really it appears to be a misguided effort to try to justify a long-standing human tradition, rather than what the Bible actually teaches.

Essentially, you can’t put Christ back into something He was never in at the outset.

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Puzzel Solved! – Not the Birthday of Jesus Christ after all.

See my following article, on Father Christmas, called Christian Christmas Chaos – The Tale of Two Fathers

And also a subsequent post called Christmas – Gold, Frankincense & Myrrh – Gifts Fit For A King – Gold

Here is a useful link to check out more information for yourself: http://www.christiananswers.net/christmas/mythsaboutchristmas.html

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23 Responses to Christmas Spirit – What Spirit Is It?

  1. Paul Benson says:

    Hi Helen;
    One of the first things God dealt with about as a new believer in 1980 was the folly and error of the celebration of the holidays of Christmas and Easter as observed by most Christians. The choice to listen and follow that conviction has not fostered popularity among family, or fellow believers, but I am quite glad I made that choice; and I believe that choice will play a big part of my eternal reward.

    Keep up the good effort;
    Paul Benson

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    • Hi Paul,

      I feel that everything seems to have taken me such a long time to deal with, having been a Christian also since 1988 myself.
      I will admit to banishing Santa from my home many years ago but dealing with the WHOLE “Christmas Thing” has been like taking baby steps; little nibbles of information, then leaving it until the following year, and taking another bite into the issues.
      Maybe this year one of my sons may even cook a meal for me – and that would make a wonderful change & not one I would turn my nose up at either!!
      Now Easter – well, that can wait until next year I think, as I have quite enough to think about just now – but I can already see that it goes “hand in glove” with this Christmas issue.

      Thanks again for your encouragement,
      God bless,
      Helen

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  2. Thanks Helen, for all the effort and, no doubt, prayer, that you put into getting this out there. I have long wondered how long we, as Christians, will keep on with things that God gives no credence to. “The traditions of men,” I believe is all they are. God bless!

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  3. Thanks for your comment Stacy.

    I do hope to write more on this subject, once I have time in-between trying to explain this issue to my sons, and dealing with all of the other life stresses that seem to come along!
    I am finding that it really is one of those BIG life issues that we have just gotten culturally sucked into taking part in but that God never said that He wants us to do it.
    For me it may be time to just quit doing it and see what happens. So I am going “Cold Turkey” on Christmas!! Well I always did like a turkey sandwich!! Lol!
    God bless,
    Helen

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  4. Very sensible post.

    This is the kind of thing that happens to people whose lives have been destroyed by Jesus. [“And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God,” (Romans 12:2).]

    It may not seem like it: but you are proving something to your children, as a testimony to the Lord. What a wonderful, heavenly gift!

    Be encouraged: life springs from death. [Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit,” (John 12:24).]

    Yeah, you have to give up Christmas [as you are convicted, i.e. your heart is not “in it” anymore]: but you are going to bear the fruit of righteousness.

    P.S. I think you are fortunate that your children want to do something with you. [It’s not immoral for them to like a nice dinner cooked by their mother!] I do encourage you to take advantage of the blessing of your family in whatever way that the Lord will lead.

    On that note, as a father, I was the first to be convicted concerning not ‘practicing’ Christmas. [My wife slowly weaned herself away from it.] Notice, I didn’t try to ‘force’ her to come into agreement with me: I waited upon the Lord to do a work in her heart. I am not trying to suggest that you do or don’t do this or that [other than obey the leading of the Holy Spirit]; I am just stating that I don’t try to do the work of the Holy Spirit in my wife or children’s lives. [I explained my biblical objections.]

    For what that is worth ….

    Peace and grace,

    brother Mark

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  5. Elle says:

    I’ve thought about this before and have known christmas wasn’t truly Christian. Easter isn’t either! And I concluded that even though I don’t believe it’s a good idea and would love to get rid of the tree (I tried to convince my husband to just do a manger scene but he wasn’t having it), it really blesses my family. I grew up with an extremely fanatical mom—no Halloween, turned everything into a religious thing—and those things really bothered me growing up. So i hate the commercialism of Christmas but I do love spending time with my children. We make memories and bond so I can’t ignore that. Every family is different so hopefully you can build new traditions?

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    • Yes, it is a transitioning time for me & my sons. Last Christmas I was quite depressed and that was a large part of my issues but then it actually turned out really good for me. I was able to talk to one of my son’s partner about my faith, in a way that had never happened before. It all came about because they visited me on Christmas Day & wanted to know what was going on with my “not doing Christmas” that year. It was a joy to be able to speak so openly to her (though my son did try to silence me) & she showed an intelligent interest in my beliefs.
      I don’t know what will happen this year but I will pray that the Lord will use the time for His glory.

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  6. My following comment was written in response to a visitor who subsequently asked for her comments to be removed. I have happily complied with her request, as I offer to all who request such, in my Comments Policy on my Home page.

    Hello

    I appreciate that you likewise have read both of my Christmas articles and appreciate the time you have taken in composing so lengthy a response to them.

    I can see that you agree with my findings that Jesus wasn’t born on 25 December and that you likewise seem to hold Him in high esteem and have a desire to share Him, the good news/gospel with other people.

    You are correct in noticing the common theme in my two Christmas articles regarding the distinction between lies and truth. This is vital if we are to follow and please our Father God who IS Truth and turn from the wicked Father of Lies.

    However, that being said, I will now pick out a few of your points that I didn’t quite see eye to eye with you on.

    • You said, “Christ became all things to all people according to his own holy nature so can we not work within the world’s idea of Christmas to bring them to the truth?” But I strongly disagree with you that Christ became all things to all people. He didn’t shift and change His beliefs or nature and He certainly told those who were religious, but not honest, what He thought of them and their hypocrisy! They got called a “brood of vipers!” if you remember. Also, we need to bear in mind what was written in James 4:4: “Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.”

    • You say, “Can we not work within the world’s idea of Christmas to tell them to the truth” but I say that God is a jealous God and does not easily share His glory with another.

    • You say, “Does it truly matter that we celebrate Christ’s birthday on December 25th? Just as long as we honour the sacrifice God made for us.” And I say, as I have said above that I now believe that it does matter. He is a God who hates mixture and a God who expects us to live according to the truth as we learn it and He reveals it to us. If we do otherwise, we are disobedient servants and that is not good either. So yes, I used to fully indulge in everything Christmassy but now I am learning about it more I am responsible before God with how I live this out in my life and with what I share with others too. Does God have mercy and overlook our lack of understanding as we live our Christian lives? Yes of course, but still He expects us to keep growing up in our faith and not stay as babes in Christ.

    • You use phrases, such as “condemnation of others”, “crush sinners”, “beat them down with their misunderstandings…” “offering brutal condemnation upon all who refuse to SEE the ‘truth’ you have discovered,” but I do not believe that I have done those things at all. I have admitted in both articles to going fully along with Christmas for most of my life and it is only after living as a Christian for 30 years, at over 50 years of age, that I am realising that I maybe need to withdraw from these customs. I will concede that in breaking free of something that used to grip me that maybe the way I express myself comes across strongly. But that is often the way when we discover we have been misled for so many years of our lives. How each reader reacts is up to them and the Lord, but I do pray about my writing that the Lord will use it to be a blessing to others. Maybe someone might find liberty and freedom at some point from this information.

    • You say, “Painting all worldly distortions of Christmas as evil negates the power of God”, but I say NO it does not negate the power of God at all. The worlds distortions of God’s ways in regard to anything are always wrong or evil or sin but God is still the Lord God Almighty. Exposing something for what it really is does nothing at all to God’s power and glory. In fact, I contest that He is pleased when His people stand up for Truth against error and lies. It’s what Jesus did and if we are to live in Him, then it’s what we must do likewise. (Perhaps you could read my article on Gideon to see how he stood up against false idols and practices in his day and age.)

    • You say, “Christians should never see Christmas as the enemy…” but I say that the enemy is not Christmas, as such, but the enemy is as ever the Adversary, the Father of Lies, the devil! He is the constant enemy of the Living God and all His followers. It is his deceptive work that believers expose in order that people can live in the light of Christ and not the darkness of deceptions.

    God bless
    Helen

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    • Preface: I don’t want to create the impression that I am ‘taking sides’ or being contentious; there is only one side, which is Christ’s, and all believers are united by HIS DEATH as one body.

      If you think discussing what the Lord is doing in your heart concerning Christmas will make some believers upset, just try telling them that most of the practices employed within the traditional church system are anti-biblical. That REALLY sets them off.

      Of course, God did not create denominational systems, nor does He rely upon men’s organizational efforts to promote His gospel. He built His church BY HIS SPIRIT and is fully ABLE of overseeing it and causing it to bear fruit.

      There is NO SUCH THING as ‘church as we know it’ [traditionally]: yes, it is good that the gospel is preached by anyone, anywhere, for any reason [Paul taught us that in Acts].

      However, the simple fact is that people don’t like to rely upon God alone, as this requires a mature faith and a willingness to follow the Holy Spirit at the expense of personal loss and suffering,

      Continuing man-made traditions, on the other hand, require no sacrifice [although they do exact a loss of peace].

      Yeah, I get it: our faith walk is a journey, and it took me a while [a LONG while] to learn some things. I wasn’t a ‘better’ Christian when I didn’t know better, and I am NOT a ‘better’ Christian now. I just walk in more truth because God has delivered from more and more error as I grew, matured, and continued to learn. No big deal.

      Those who have been awakened to understand the destructive influence of men’s traditions, which have been incorporated and mainstreamed into the popular practice of many believers, are going to be attacked when they speak of truth and deception and the means of discerning between the two.

      Who attacks them? Those who feel threatened by the truth and feel a need to justify their errors.

      Jesus said, “No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.” {Matthew 6:24) [Mammon meaning not only money but any worldly love.]

      We have to discriminate between truths and lies by using righteous judgment [which
      comes from God’s words].

      I don’t look down upon believers who celebrate Christmas. Why would I? I don’t try to convince them of how I think, either. I will explain why I don’t ‘practice’ Christmas, however, based upon the word of God [“have no respect for holy days” or ‘those traditions of men that they teach us to honor’] and my own conscience before God.

      If you are attacked for doing that, the attacker is not projecting who you are, but reflecting their own inner struggle and inability to accept and walk in truth.

      So, keep following your conscience, Helen, AT THE HOLY SPIRIT’S DIRECTION, because your witness rings true with me.

      Peace and grace to all …

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  7. Hi Mark

    Thank you very much for your input. It is greatly appreciated.

    God bless
    Helen

    Ps – the person who left the very long “comment” (that Mark & myself were responding to) subsequently asked for its removal as she did not like me editing it for reasons of length.

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  8. Ps – To my readers:-
    Tina did reply again, but as she’d stated that her previous comment was her final comment, I have chosen to use my editorial discretion and not continue this dialogue as we are obviously not currently in agreement about the issue of Christians and Christmas. For information on my comments policy please go to my Home & Comments Policy Page, at the top of this blog. Thank you.

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  9. I just want to let you all know that I had a wonderful opportunity this week to witness to a lady about the Lord Jesus, and the opportunity came due to my having given up Christmas!

    This lady had heard something about me in this respect and she kindly and tentatively asked if I would be offended to receive a Christmas card from her, as she would be distributing them to everyone else around me, as per normal. I replied, I would not be offended at all, but as I am no longer celebrating the event, I would simply put it in a pile with the others, so there would be no point really in giving me such a card.

    She then replied with, “Yes, it is mostly a pagan celebration”. Interesting response from her. That opened the door to an amazing conversation where I was able to speak openly (in a place that one would not normally feel at liberty to do so, I hasten to add) about my love relationship with the Lord and all kinds of things. She mentioned the book of Revelation and the darkening and changing times we live in. Again, an amazing insight from her. She said she saw the love and passion for the Lord in my eyes as I was speaking to her and she thanked me afterwards for the uplifting nature of the very real conversation we had experienced.

    I stand in awe of God for using me in such a fashion. To make the most of every opportunity is what I live for. I have prayed that she will continue to feel the conviction of her sin and get her bible out, as I suggested to her, to read a gospel account for herself.

    I am starting to think that “Not doing Christmas” may in fact be opening up more Real gospel witnessing opportunities than all the times I was involved in “doing Christmas”. Now folks are asking me why? That in itself is a great springboard to speaking about my love for the Lord.
    How are you all getting on in this respect?

    Keep in touch, and let me know.
    God bless,
    Helen

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    • bornagain732 says:

      AMEN!!!! I know EXACTLY what you have been through! I was a huge celebrator!
      We can feel alone when “swimming against the tide”!
      I have to say I have almost word for word done exactly as you. We have 7 children (6 boys 1 girl)-2 daughter in laws and 3 grandchildren (with another on the way)! You can imagine the cricket sounds when I finally said I can’t “play” this any more. My daughter has been the best and most understanding along with my husband. Two of our boys are an identical set of twins that have Down Syndrome so they just hear the world outside speak of it. I feel it has been a blessing to have been released from the bondage this day can bring and that I too have been able to witness MORE by NOT celebrating then when we were!
      It’s not always “easy” BUT with GOD and for GOD all things are possible and HE sees us through for HIS glory and honor! ❤ I will share this post!

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      • Hi Elizabeth,

        Thanks for sharing and visiting my blog. It is nice to “meet” you, another “live fish that swims against the tide”.

        Yes, stopping the “Christmas charade” really feels liberating to me now. I am only on year 2 of doing so & already I am pondering on the strangeness of why so very many people all do the same thing on 25 December every year. It now feels like a veil has been removed from my eyes and it feels like the “world” is a master puppeteer making everyone behave like minions on this day.

        I am truly thinking that there are probably spiritual influences involved, and that is why as we stop “playing the game” their way that even doing such is like a rebuke to them. This causes strong reactions from those still involved.

        Anyway, hope to keep in touch, as we each share what the Lord is revealing to us, in our walks with Him.

        Thanks too for sharing my post on your blog. I appreciate that.

        God bless,
        Helen

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  11. bornagain732 says:

    Also we are not to mix the Holy with the profane! GOD IS HOLY!!!

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  13. bornagain732 says:

    Thank you, Helen.
    My name is Elizabeth~Beth for short 🙂 It is so nice to have you, Sherry and Maria and a few others understand what is happening here and I agree people feel convicted! I am just so happy to have my eyes opened to so many new things! The Good Lord is always teaching us! NEVER BORING! Way better than any college education! HALLELUJAH!!!

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  14. Per the ‘Christmas’ discussion [and having read the recent responses above]: it’s interesting to me how many of the CHRISTIANS I speak with, when I explain why I don’t ‘practice’ [participate] in Christmas anymore, agree with MUCH [sometimes ALL] of what I have to say. Of course, it doesn’t change their practice. It is much like witnessing to believers caught up in traditional Christianity [those with strong, denominational ties]: they may not understand; they may become offended. However, some of them ALREADY KNOW the truth and AGREE with me when I share with them the truths of God’s words concerning the errors in the traditional church systems. They SEE it. However, ultimately, they become nervous about the conversation and say something like this, “Well, MY CHURCH is DIFFERENT.” What do they really mean? They mean that, while they recognize the truth concerning these things, they do not possess the strength to pull away from them and do not want to pay the price of following Christ alone. This is sad, but true. Again, it doesn’t make me a better Christian. However, it most certainly does show the weakness of their faith, that they are unable to walk in the truth they have received by the Spirit’s Witness, and the strong SOUL TIES they have to these earthly things.

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  15. My point in the above post is this: God IS calling people out of false, worldly traditions [whether ‘Christmas’ or denominational systems and traditions]: they just won’t leave them. [I do acknowledge that some are trapped in these things simply because they cannot discern the truth concerning them.]

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    • Hi Mark,

      I think you are right. But some people may take many years (like me really) to process the challenging new thoughts about various things, from church-going to Christmas celebrations and more. So hopefully, some people who appear resistant and hesitant initially will go away and think, read and pray about the various issues and ultimately IF they want to please the Lord, He will lead them into ALL TRUTH, in His way & His timing.

      It is very hard to give up our traditions and ways of living our lives that we have always been led to believe were correct and pleasing to God. It is very difficult to allow the Lord to teach and train us in the ways that are pleasing to Him when that means swimming against the tide. But I can testify to all that read this, that it is possible to do so, with the help of the Lord. The way may be difficult and narrow but the joy of pleasing the Lord is the greatest blessing of all.

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  16. inohnothing says:

    Thank you for this. This was a big struggle for me this past year. In the end, I went along with it for my parents, but really felt it wasn’t honoring to God and Jesus at all. I’m excited to learn the Biblical feasts and start celebrating them instead. 🙂

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  17. Hi,
    Thank you for your comment. I appreciate that Christmas can be awkward for some people, both in the doing of it, or even in the not doing it.
    Although much can be learnt from understanding the biblical Jewish feasts, I feel that some folks get too obsessed with all things Jewish, and can end up under another yoke that born again Christians weren’t meant to bear, in my opinion. But that’s a whole new subject area.

    God bless,
    Helen

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